BULLS & QUEENS EPISODE 127 - Doc Chocolate & Indy Vixen
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Doc Chocolate: Welcome everybody to the bulls and the queens. Podcast Avn nominated hopefully a Avn winner. This is your man, Doc, chocolate. And I'm coming at. You live from Las Vegas, and I have a special guest whom I shall introduce here in one moment. But before we get started I want you guys and you gals that are listening to this to make sure
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Doc Chocolate: you go to whatever podcast platform you're watching this on listening to this, on and go ahead and follow us
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Doc Chocolate: and also make sure you check out my swinger videos and my fans content and my spicy stuff that I make with hot wise from all across the world and the country, and you can check that
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Doc Chocolate: So without further ado, I am going to introduce the guest, the queen of the hour, and she was originally on bulls and queens episode 118, and that was an episode in which we did a race play panel, and we discussed, hey, is it okay to do race play in the lifestyle? And if so.
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Doc Chocolate: what's okay to do? And what is definitely not okay to do. And so we definitely had a very fun, informative and educational panel regarding that topic.
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Doc Chocolate: and so on her twitter profile, her ex profile. She describes herself as an average Midwest milf with a wild side, and she's only into BBC. Her name is Indy Vixen. Give her a hand.
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Doc Chocolate: Woo. How you doing, girl?
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Indy Vixen: I'm doing good. How are you?
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Doc Chocolate: Hey? Doing well, I cannot complain. So how are you enjoying the day? The week? I know you have a few days off, as we're recording. This is a couple of days before Christmas.
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Doc Chocolate: What's going on in your world.
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Indy Vixen: Okay. But yeah, I've got the next few days off enjoying it.
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Doc Chocolate: Nice nice! Did you get all your gifts and presents, and all that?
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Indy Vixen: I think so.
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Doc Chocolate: You think so?
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Indy Vixen: We're gonna go with. Yes.
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Doc Chocolate: We're gonna go with. Yes, okay, okay, that's that's a great answer. So so, Miss Indy, Vixen, how do people find you? What's the best place for them to go.
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Indy Vixen: Well on x or Twitter
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Indy Vixen: is probably the only difference in all of my my profiles. It is at Indy underscore vixen, INDY underscore VIXE n. Everywhere pretty much everywhere else, like blue sky telegram, Instagram onlyfans. My link tree is just Indy vixen, with no underscore, and I have a mini vis and a lot of fans, but it just started it. So you know.
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Indy Vixen: I'm kind of lapsed and getting anything on there, so it probably looks pretty blank.
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Doc Chocolate: Which do you like better? Do you like Mini vids better, or only fans?
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Indy Vixen: I'm just learning the only fans thing. So
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Indy Vixen: really bits, I don't know. I I've been reading through some tutorials and stuff, but we're gonna see.
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Doc Chocolate: We're gonna see.
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Indy Vixen: Put that on. My husband is like, Hey, can you learn this? And you learn that so that you can put it on there because most of the videos are he edits. And they're on his computer anyway. So makes it more makes it a lot easier.
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Doc Chocolate: Okay, and what type of videos can people expect to see on your only fans and video and all that.
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Indy Vixen: Well, and I know we'll get into it later. I am lifestyle first, st content
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Indy Vixen: later. You know, I've only been doing content maybe a year. So all of my content is just lifestyle. Play at parties at one on ones, different things. It's nothing really scripted.
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Indy Vixen: It's just me hooking up with some fun. People.
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Doc Chocolate: Seriously like like, when do you and I get to hook up.
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Indy Vixen: We might have.
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Doc Chocolate: Oh, yeah, I guess we did hook up. Yeah, she's like, she's like, what the hell are you talking about? We already hooked up? Yeah, so hopefully, my video, our video, I mean will be on your Mini, viz. And your only fans.
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Indy Vixen: It should be soon. I don't know. Will it be?
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Indy Vixen: He said. Yes.
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Doc Chocolate: He said, yes, yes, I love it. I love it.
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Indy Vixen: Ahead of that, so I don't know.
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Doc Chocolate: And so why do people call you Eddie Bixon?
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Indy Vixen: When we 1st were doing some of this we were more of a sag vixen couple.
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Indy Vixen: and I'm from Indiana, Indiana, so it just made sense.
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Doc Chocolate: Okay and stag vixen, is that pretty much the same dynamic that you guys are in right now, or has things evolved.
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Indy Vixen: It's really evolved.
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Doc Chocolate: Okay, tell us more about that.
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Indy Vixen: I can tell you where we started, or I can tell you where we're at. Whatever is easier for you.
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Doc Chocolate: Oh, baby girl, I like keeping things in chronological order. So tell me where you started at and where you began. So tell us the story, the original story of.
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Indy Vixen: Oh, gosh! I'll keep be here for hours.
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Indy Vixen: So when we got together, we've always been really adventurous. You know, we we met because I dated his roommate, so that
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Indy Vixen: what he dated his roommates.
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Doc Chocolate: Yeah, and I fixed him up with my girlfriend. So we ended up together 33 years later.
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Indy Vixen: But we were on spring break and got rid of the kids with my mom, and we went to a bar and a couple picked us up
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Indy Vixen: and kind of said, You know, do you wanna do you? Wanna we want a couple? Do you want a couple? And we're like what Beers what you know so well, after we got through all of that, we figured out what they wanted. We're like.
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Indy Vixen: let's go with it. Let's figure it out.
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Indy Vixen: and we had never talked about it. And, to make a long story short, it didn't really work out. It was their 1st time, too, and he just couldn't handle it. So we found people that liked us later got online and went on.
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Doc Chocolate: Wow!
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Indy Vixen: We kind of started like a lot of couples do with.
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Indy Vixen: you know, swinging. And we backed off and talked about everything. You know, we have those long conversations about, what do we do here and there? And I researched everything you could research about the lifestyle, because, you know, I want to know what kind of people do this? Are they bad people, or.
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Doc Chocolate: Am I gonna.
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Indy Vixen: You know, am I gonna get struck by lightning the 1st time I really go into and do this, you know.
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Doc Chocolate: Yeah, the common things.
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Indy Vixen: Oh, yeah.
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Indy Vixen: And so we started out swinging and we started out with the dreaded, you know. Okay, let's just soft swap. Let's take it slow.
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Indy Vixen: And then, you know, we went on into to swinging as as a couple for for several years.
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Indy Vixen: and then it got to be where I was like, yeah, this isn't real fun for me and
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Indy Vixen: not to throw my husband under the bus. But he we would go into a party, and he'd look at the hottest girl. Hottest lady
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Indy Vixen: go! That's where we're going, I'm like, Wait, Whoa! Whoa! Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
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Indy Vixen: So we we talked through it. We figured it out
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Indy Vixen: and after a while we just decided that doing things
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Indy Vixen: only as a couple and swinging and swapping wasn't that much for us, and I wasn't really in the ladies.
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Indy Vixen: so splitting our our playtime into splitting it as singles.
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Indy Vixen: and he going out and doing his own dates with playing with couples, and me going out with single guys was was better for us. For a while.
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Indy Vixen: There was a couple, 2 or 3 years or so we had separate profiles. We had a couple of profile. We had separate ones, too.
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Doc Chocolate: Okay, okay, yeah, I find it. I I find it easier. Like, when you're in. The lifestyle is easier, definitely easier to go about it as a single versus as a couple.
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Indy Vixen: Probably. Yeah, cause you're not changing. You're you're
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Indy Vixen: you know. You're gonna play with hot wires. There you go.
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Doc Chocolate: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
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Indy Vixen: Yeah.
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Doc Chocolate: Exactly. And like I, I kind of see like. And I've discussed this with a lot of people, Andy Vixen, that you know, having that 4 way connection. It is difficult. But usually what happens is usually the ladies and the couples are really really hot. And sometimes it's the guys that are kind of like,
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Doc Chocolate: There's a little bit of sketch there. Is that what you guys you and your husband have encountered? Or.
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Indy Vixen: Yeah, yeah.
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Indy Vixen: that's exactly what happened. We were gym rats, and you know, we we were kept ourselves up and stuff. And I don't.
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Indy Vixen: Not that I'm degrading anybody, but I'm like, Oh, that's just not my my like, I guess.
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Doc Chocolate: Okay, okay. Are you blushing over there, Andy? Vixen.
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Indy Vixen: Am I no.
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Doc Chocolate: I think so. Yeah.
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Indy Vixen: Told him it was hot in here, but that may be another reason.
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Doc Chocolate: She's like, it's hot in here. That's why I'm flushed. So okay, so you guys have literally been in the lifestyle since the nineties. Then so 33 years that
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Doc Chocolate: nineties right?
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Indy Vixen: So I don't. We don't even count. The 1st 15 years we were married.
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Doc Chocolate: What?
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Indy Vixen: Because we once we got married it was straight lace, everything. And so that spring break and it's been. I guess it'll be 20 years this spring.
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Doc Chocolate: Okay? So that's long enough.
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Doc Chocolate: Okay, okay?
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Doc Chocolate: So like, back then, if it's been 20 years. So that's puts you guys at around 2,004. Ish, does that sound about right?
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Indy Vixen: 2,004 2,005 yeah.
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Doc Chocolate: Okay. So I mean, obviously, you said that you did the research into it. And you're like, okay, well, like, what type of people are doing this swinging thing, lifestyle thing? Are they ex murderers? Are they weirdos? Are they going to be serial killers like? What type of information was out there for you to research back. Then.
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Indy Vixen: Well, I just wanted to know what it was. I'd never even heard the word swinging or lifestyle, so I had to figure that one out.
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Indy Vixen: and then I had to. I want to know. You know, what type of professions do this.
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Doc Chocolate: Okay.
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Indy Vixen: You know. Am I in a profession? That am I? Am I just prone to do that because of my profession, and I started out as a teacher. And now I just do computer stuff right.
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Indy Vixen: What I found out was anybody that has high pressure jobs
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Indy Vixen: or high stress jobs. It's usually them teachers, nurses, military, you know, 1st responders.
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Indy Vixen: Those were the one people that were had the highest percentage from what I researched
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Indy Vixen: of getting into lifestyle made sense.
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Doc Chocolate: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it really does. Because I mean, I know me. You and your husband were talking about that a few weeks ago when you guys were out in Vegas. And yeah, I've seen over the years because I've been in the lifestyle for about 7 years, and I've seen that it's always teachers. It's always military slash police. It is always nurses, and y'all are the biggest freaks out there, like
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Doc Chocolate: I remember I I hooked up with this single lady, and this was years ago, like right before the pandemic. And she was literally, I think, a kindergarten or a 1st grade teacher. Right? So she's teaching all these little kids right, man, this girl is like drinking like
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Doc Chocolate: like 2, I think 2 bottles of wine a day, and I think she was like a functioning
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Doc Chocolate: alcoholic, and she was doing all types of like drugs that she shouldn't be doing. And, like, you know, the type of drugs where it's like, should I really be in your apartment? Because if the police come, I don't want to get taken in. And, you know, doing anal. She was actually the 1st person I did anal with. And I was like, Wow, you teach little kids. I guess teaching little kids is high stress.
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Indy Vixen: I didn't do it for very long, maybe a year. And I was like, I don't really like kids. So.
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Doc Chocolate: Dang!
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Indy Vixen: That degree. I'll get something else.
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Doc Chocolate: Right? Right? Oh, man, and so, yeah, yeah, I totally agree with that. So what were some of the 1st parties that you guys went to cause. I know that you and a few other people in that Indiana area, you guys throw parties and whatnot from time to time like, Tell us about that about the parties you went to, and then how you guys started throwing parties yourself.
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Indy Vixen: Well back then, I mean, you don't have all of the like telegram and
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Indy Vixen: all x and all of that that you could collaborate with people. So we just had a few small regional
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Indy Vixen: swinger profile sites pretty much.
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Indy Vixen: and they would post those, or we would go to clubs. Actually, the 1st thing we ever did was go to a club, and we went down in Tennessee, because, you know, we're in Indiana, and we want to make sure nobody can know us like who? Who really right now, who really cares if somebody sees it?
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Doc Chocolate: Right.
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Indy Vixen: All there for the same reason, but.
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Doc Chocolate: Right.
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Indy Vixen: Think about that when you're new.
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Indy Vixen: And we went to some parties, we have some friends that they don't throw parties anymore, but they threw their own parties.
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Indy Vixen: and
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Indy Vixen: believe it or not, when we went to the parties. Then we went to bike rallies with a bunch of our swinger friends like motorcycle rallies, which.
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Doc Chocolate: Oh, wow!
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Indy Vixen: Fine and
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Indy Vixen: we had. We had some people around here that they threw some pretty good parties, and they would do some partial hotel takeovers and stuff back in the day, probably maybe 15 years ago or so.
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Doc Chocolate: Okay.
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Indy Vixen: And they used to be at the same hotel that you went when you were in India, that you went to that hotel. That was when it was nice.
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Doc Chocolate: Oh, wow! Okay. So so remind me what the hotel is. If you can say the name, are you able to say the name?
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Doc Chocolate: It's a Wyndham or something, or we're doing.
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Indy Vixen: Travelodge. Now. They've changed names since you've been here.
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Doc Chocolate: I was literally just up with that hotel in Indianapolis. What March March this year, right.
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Indy Vixen: Yeah, yeah, we're not going there anymore for.
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Doc Chocolate: You're not going there anymore.
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Doc Chocolate: -Oh!
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Indy Vixen: Yeah, I think that the the hosts are switching.
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Doc Chocolate: Okay. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha.
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Indy Vixen: But yeah, and you know,
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Indy Vixen: we used to go to. People used to have house parties a lot. They'd invite probably 10 couples over and have a house party. We've had them here at my house, but
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Indy Vixen: the 1st house party we had we invited I want to say, 15 or 20 couples, and we had 40 couples show up.
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Doc Chocolate: Oh, wow!
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Indy Vixen: I'm like, Oh, yeah, but I don't think my house is big enough for that right right
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Indy Vixen: on the beds.
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Doc Chocolate: Wow! How how was that house party.
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Indy Vixen: It was fun.
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Doc Chocolate: Yeah.
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Indy Vixen: It's been probably 10 or 1213 years ago.
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Doc Chocolate: Okay, do you like house parties better, or do you like hotel parties better.
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Indy Vixen: It depends.
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Indy Vixen: If it's just a regular
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Indy Vixen: you already said on my thing. I like black gentlemen, so if it's just a regular party. The odds of them letting single black men in are a little bit different than if it's an Ir party where it's focused on single gentlemen that are black. So
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Indy Vixen: okay, okay, Pen. But house parties.
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Indy Vixen: you're gonna be able to, you know who's on the list. And you know who's gonna be there.
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Doc Chocolate: Exactly, exactly. And Ir, for you guys and ladies that are listening to this, if you don't know what it is, it stands for interracial.
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Doc Chocolate: So so, okay, what my husband calls me the acronym Queen. So sorry
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Doc Chocolate: the acronym queen. So okay, so what is it? Cause I'm I'm gonna ask you how you guys started doing like the bigger hotel parties. But what is it about, black gentlemen, that you prefer.
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Indy Vixen: And ask.
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Doc Chocolate: Heck, yeah, hey? Hey? I won't be a bad host if I did not ask you that Miss Indy Dixon.
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Indy Vixen: Okay, there's several things.
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Doc Chocolate: Okay.
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Indy Vixen: I.
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Indy Vixen: The 1st house party I went to, and I played with a black gentleman who we're still friends with
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Indy Vixen: has been probably 1213 years ago.
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Indy Vixen: and it was at a time where we were going to parties and going out and playing with singles Friday night. And then our couple of friends Saturday, because you know, your couple of friends think all single males are bad, so
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Indy Vixen: we didn't go. We didn't conform to that, and we went to a party.
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Indy Vixen: and I met a guy or 2.
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Doc Chocolate: Or 2, 4, 3.
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Indy Vixen: Just just a couple that night, and I was like, I think I'm gonna go here.
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Indy Vixen: And I had told my husband before. I said, you know
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Indy Vixen: I don't know what it is, but there's a network, and you're not gonna get
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Indy Vixen: 10 black gentlemen in a room, and one of them just act out of sorts and treat some lady something. You guys have a code and I like it.
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Indy Vixen: I know that sounds weird or rude, or whatever, but I just felt comfortable.
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Doc Chocolate: So just what I've noticed is we do tend to be pleasers.
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Doc Chocolate: I've seen about us, and I can't talk for anybody else. But yeah.
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Indy Vixen: I agree. And this is gonna you're gonna crack up. But we'll have the best lotion. And you can. You can, you guys skin our is soft.
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Indy Vixen: I say that jokingly, because I have a friend, that when we'll go and travel I bet he has a half a suitcase for a different lotion. You got one for your feet and one for your arms and one for your face. I'm like dude. You got more cospics than I do.
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Doc Chocolate: Okay, yeah, yeah, the Podcaster. And so we went to splash Mocha. And she was expecting me to bring some some coconut oil, and I didn't bring any coconut oil, and she's clowning me. She's like what black Guy doesn't have or bring coconut oil with him. Blah blah blah! And I was like.
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Indy Vixen: My husband's roommate, and dating a lady who I fixed my husband up with so wow!
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Indy Vixen: Yeah, no, it's it's not that I haven't ever been into ladies. It's
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Indy Vixen: But I think when we were with couples, it kind of became an expectation. Okay, the girls are going to start playing. Then we're going to switch and we'll go to the guys. I think I got burnt out. I'm just like I don't like that forced if I feel the need. Yes, I'm going to go do something. But I for as a
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Doc Chocolate: I gotcha. I gotcha just as long as the guys are well moisturized, and they use their 5 types of lotion and oils on their skin. So it's not.
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Doc Chocolate: Oh, what! You you! What! You you didn't tell me all that like I met you a few weeks ago, and you didn't tell me all that you did.
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Doc Chocolate: So how did y'all like? Tell me more about
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Indy Vixen: The 2 tall wish list has one about every other month, so we go to those my husband does security. So we go to all of them.
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Indy Vixen: Is there pressure here? If I talk to that guy, do I have to go in the room with them on whatever? And then, once you figure it out that you know what just talking to people doesn't mean, hey? I'm I'm interested. I'm gonna go there right now.
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Indy Vixen: Maybe. And there have been people that I've talked to, and 3 parties later, I've seen them at 3 events later. And then we finally play. You know, it's not like
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Indy Vixen: It's sometimes those events are a little overwhelming to me, because I want to know somebody a little bit.
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Indy Vixen: but we also go to we go to a nude resort for the for the winter, so.
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Doc Chocolate: Yeah. And and I agree, Andy Vixen, because, the 1st nude resort that I went to was what is it called? It is called sea melting. And yeah, have you heard of that before?
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Doc Chocolate: Okay. So they have 2 locations, one out here in Las Vegas, and then one in Palm Springs, California. And you know everybody's naked. And what I found out was that, you know, once somebody's naked in their physical body and no clothes on. It's almost like they get naked on the inside where it's like, Hey, we don't have any barriers. We're not gonna hide anything. You could see myself in my birthday suit, so you can see everything else on the inside of me.
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Doc Chocolate: Right. You see everything so alright. So how did you get? Or transition into doing content creation? So you said, you've been doing this content creation for about a year. I believe you said. Is that correct?
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Indy Vixen: Once in a while we were having them about every other month or so, when the other hotel parties in here in Indy weren't going on, we would rent an airbnb or a hotel suite and have the parties, and she's into content, and she always filmed so
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Doc Chocolate: You could drop your name on here.
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Indy Vixen: Oh, Eve!
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Indy Vixen: I never name drop unless I know it's okay. Yeah, he's a sexy fairy. Yeah, we have parties. And yeah.
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Indy Vixen: so I was like, Oh, I can sign up because, you know, you can tag me that way. And then I thought, I'm gonna do them. And I found out there's a lot of guys that I know around here
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Indy Vixen: to be honest, 1 1 person I found out was online. I've been playing with him for 11 years. I got content for 11 years ago.
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Doc Chocolate: I actually like that. That's actually a very smart idea. So it's basically lifestyle party throughout the rest of the house. And then just that one room is dedicated towards. Hey? Let's make some contents.
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Doc Chocolate: Okay, that's a really smart idea, because I know a lot of content creators that I talked to. Most of them are lifestyle, right? And so most of us we like to do lifestyle stuff. We don't like always doing lifestyle on camera, because, you know, let's face it. That's not as good of a playtime, as if there's no cameras on. You know what I'm saying? Because, like, do you feel that way? Where, like you feel like, hey? The cameras on in a way you gotta like perform and do.
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Indy Vixen: I just turn it on. I'll forget that it's there. And sometimes it's my husband filming, I mean, and
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Indy Vixen: You know, but there's some people that want that content because I get asked all the time she has some missionary content, so I could see his ass and his balls, and I'm like I don't know. Let me look. I'll send you a link, you know.
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Indy Vixen: I like mine. But I'm just like, Okay, I send it up.
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Doc Chocolate: See.
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Doc Chocolate: You. You are agree with the 86. And you're like, well, that's a hard question. But okay, whatever.
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Indy Vixen: you know, I make friends. I have friends with several guys, and they're like, Oh, yeah, I play with that girl and well, her husband really gets up in there with that camera. Just tell him it's fine. He's just wanting to get the best shot, you know.
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Doc Chocolate: But I put on the.
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Doc Chocolate: Yeah. Well, okay. Okay. Andy, you're in a very precarious situation. If you're with a man's wife, and the man is recording. And like. Let's say he touches your balls, or you can hear, you know, feel his, the warmth of his breath on your ass, or whatever you know what I'm saying it's like, How do you turn around? And you're like, Hey, Guy.
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Doc Chocolate: Yeah, yeah, you know, like 5 foot rule, remember, Covid rules 5 foot. Where's the 6 foot.
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Indy Vixen: It's probably something with Eve that she had me do.
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Doc Chocolate: -Oh.
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Doc Chocolate: Well, hey? She'll probably be listening to this. So what did crazy Eve make you do.
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Indy Vixen: Oh, she didn't make me do anything, but I did. I mean, we don't do crazy, crazy stuff. My husband's looking at me like really.
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Indy Vixen: of you know, 4 or 5 guys and us and another girl or something. But I think the weirdest thing is we ended up filming it. We were in a party, a hotel party, and I knew that they had a camera on us, and she's like, Hey, Andy Vixen, come over here, meet this guy, his same such and such. You want to stick a dick with me, and I'm like.
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Doc Chocolate: And you know what I like that? Because, like so many people, because I've done polls on this right. And I've asked people, hey? Do you prefer pro porn? Do you prefer prefer amateur porn? Or it doesn't matter. And do you know what the results are?
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Doc Chocolate: Amateur. Yep, all the time. It's literally like it. It always ends up being 80% of people like amateur 10%. They like the professional stuff and the other 10%. They don't care whether it's amateur or pro.
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Doc Chocolate: So why do you think that is.
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Indy Vixen: Because it's real. It's not scripted.
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Doc Chocolate: And.
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Indy Vixen: I mean, you can still do pro stuff, and it not be as scripted. But
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Indy Vixen: you know some things that happen. Sometimes I look at some, not against any porn stars, because, gosh! They they work hard, but
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Indy Vixen: sometimes, I think. Are they liking?
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Indy Vixen: You know.
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Doc Chocolate: Right? Are they having fun?
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Indy Vixen: With that, because I'd really have fun with that, you know.
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Doc Chocolate: Oh, man, yeah, like, hey? To each their own right?
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Indy Vixen: Exactly.
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Doc Chocolate: So so what do you? We're coming to the end of this podcast but like, what do you have planned for 2025 in your lifestyle and your content, creation, life, and all that good stuff.
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Indy Vixen: I probably I'd like to film a little bit more
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Indy Vixen: just because I I'm probably the laziest content person around.
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Indy Vixen: I can get it posted. I will. I pretty much put it to my husband. I'm like, could you help me with this? Because I really suck at this? He's like, yeah, let me let me handle that part for you and let me try to help you edit and post and stuff. So we're gonna we're gonna concentrate on that a little bit better. But as far as lifestyle
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Indy Vixen: just want to hit some bucket list items, there's not many to hit, but.
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Doc Chocolate: Okay.
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Indy Vixen: I want to hit a few.
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Doc Chocolate: What type of bucket list items do you want.
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Indy Vixen: I don't know. You know we've done events. We've done hotel takeovers. We've done
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Indy Vixen: in the last couple of years. I I started doing more, one on ones and
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Indy Vixen: some date nights and overnights which we didn't do overnight.
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Indy Vixen: Oh, probably a year or 2 ago, and now I do. Well.
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Indy Vixen: there's a couple of people I'll do an overnight, maybe once a month.
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Doc Chocolate: I'm not his.
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Indy Vixen: People.
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Indy Vixen: taking a vacation with one of my Guy friends would be is kind of on my bucket list.
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Doc Chocolate: Okay.
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Indy Vixen: They don't have to worry.
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Indy Vixen: Yeah, right? But
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Indy Vixen: I don't know. I don't know. We've we've hit a lot of bucket list items in our life, you know. 20 years, you you mark off a lot of things you didn't even know you wanted to do.
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Doc Chocolate: Yeah, yeah, you really do. And what I find about this lifestyle indie is that it definitely is an evolution. And it's definitely a journey, and what you may have liked 20 years ago, 10 years ago. Heck! Even a year ago. It's not necessarily what you like now.
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Indy Vixen: Exactly.
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Doc Chocolate: You know. So all right. So go ahead and tell everybody else again how to find you at your socials and website, and then also give somebody that is listening to this. And maybe they are a content creator. And they're thinking about taking a step into doing content creation. Give them some basic words of advice, and we will get the hell up off of this episode and interview.
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Indy Vixen: Alright define me. I'm at Indy vixen, INDY VI xen on everything except for x, which it's Indy underscore vixen
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Indy Vixen: as far as content. Read. Learn how to post everything, because, you know, you get to the holidays, and you're like, How do you do bundles on there. How do you do this? How do you do specials? And then I have to read up on it and figure it all out, and it would have been better if I read the tutorial before I posted myself out there.
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Indy Vixen: And and just
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Indy Vixen: when you're filming, figure out, how am I, gonna you know, figure out, or why you're editing. Figure out, how can I market this? You know. What angle can I market this to?
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Indy Vixen: And
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Indy Vixen: what we found was, you know I play with black gentlemen. Okay, that's a that's a 1 niche, and the only fans figure out what you're into and stick to that, because if you're here and here and here you're not. Gonna get a whole group of fans that want you for and want to repeat. Buy your stuff if if you're showing feet videos. And then a video with you know, having sex here and a video with a girl here and here, which is great. But
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Indy Vixen: if you kind of let them know what type of videos they're going to get when they get you to your profile, I think it helps
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Indy Vixen: some more marketing with that.
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Doc Chocolate: I love that I love that so niche down niche, down, niche down.
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Doc Chocolate: So I love it so. This has been the beautiful, lovely Indy vixen. She is Midwest's favorite milk and dark chocolate, and so, until the next episode, bulls and Queens nation, y'all stay sexy. Y'all stay blessed, and y'all stay loving each other
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Doc Chocolate: bye.